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alvinkassim
Posted Today @ 04:30 View all alvinkassim's posts

I can't wait to see Lewis win the championship even though the racist FIA and cheaters FIArrari tried every dirty trick in the book to deny him. That day will come nomatter what they try because God is still around.

b19uks
Posted Today @ 03:01 View all b19uks's posts

I believe hamilton is like Massa was when he used to drive for sauber petronas. disaster on wheels. Only he is a lot faster. that is the only difference. a very stupid move he made in japan, the same in belgium, the overtake in france of vettel and lets not forget the pitlane incident in canada. i have been watching formula one for a long time. i might be wrong but i can't remember anyone being that stupid in the pitlane. this is his second year. he has made more mistakes this year then he did last year. i believe Massa deserves to win this year on the ground that he has improved more and has made less mistakes then hamilton. kubica would be good as well.

MICHAEL12
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 20:05 View all MICHAEL12's posts

I agree with map100, if Hamiltons car was red and was named Ferrari he wouln't have had any penalties and he would have already been Twice World Champion.

Franco_Baracca
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 19:34 View all Franco_Baracca's posts

Wilder is spot on with his comments! Nice one.

F1PuertoRico
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 16:32 View all F1PuertoRico's posts

Wilder.... sorry if i hurt your soul. And you say it, maybe if massa won. Massa should go to brazil and play soccer instead Racing like men.

map1000
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 16:30 View all map1000's posts

It's not the FIA but FIX. I think lewis would win the championship easily if he drove for Ferrari.

foxy
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 13:17 View all foxy's posts

Replying to omer's comment about Lewis's move on Alonso after being lapped, wasn't as daft as you think. If you knew anything about f1 rules, Alonso had started the last lap, Lewis at that time was a lap down, by un-lapping Alonso, gave him the chance to complete the last lap, which, had any driver, in a points position retired, he could have collected at least one point. Method in the madness. eh?

Wilder
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 12:31 View all Wilder's posts

F1PuertoRico Posted 12/10/2008 @ 23:17 View all F1PuertoRico's posts Massa is a average driver with a good car.He cant accept that Hamilton overtake him with style and breed. Put Massa back and he is the most crappy driver that you ever seen. .......................................................................................................... It must stick in your throat that Hamilton maybe beaten by an "average driver " eh? Also - what does that say about the abilities of the rest of the field if that were true -seriously, the more this goes on, the more desperate and stupid the comments from disgruntled Mclaren fans.. pitiful. Lets not forget, Mclaren were caught red handed cheating last year which conveniently seems to be overlooked when assessing credibility issues this year, and yes apparantly everythings a conspiracy against them - forgive me for not believing everything Hamilton & Mclaren say, especially the latest gem from Hamilton that now the day after Hamilton has decided that Massa deliberately drove into him.. I wonder why he didnt say it at the time.....(convenient underperforming excuse no 5)

the_dude2
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:01 View all the_dude2's posts

Silly mistake by the young man at the start of the race, havent ever seen a drive through penalty for something like that though as far as i can remember. lucky the FIA still managed to give Massa an extra point AFTER the race had finished though! What a f**king joke! Hamilton still might win it if he can overcome his nerves and panick attacks and the race stewards/FIA determination to stop him as well.

mawerickin
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 10:55 View all mawerickin's posts

Finally users like omer start posting fair comments. Lewis drove like crooks on nfs game. he risked safety of all on grid so did massa. both should move on rather tounge fighting

Jean
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 10:52 View all Jean's posts

Lewis' quote : "Everyone went wide [at the start] but for some reason I got a penalty for that. I can't understand that." He conveniently forgets to say WHY everyone went wide there.

srikar
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 10:49 View all srikar's posts

Ron and Lewis, grow up! If the first corner incident was a racing incident, even the tangle between FM and LH was a racing incident! In the past, it def would not have been investigated.

aramith
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 10:03 View all aramith's posts

Lewis has to control his nerves.I'm a big fan of him but still believe his move at turn 1 is unnecessary! But I believe he would still be the 2008 world champion !

Hekki_Fan
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 09:40 View all Hekki_Fan's posts

Robb, Kubica as a champion, do me a favour, He had the audacity to criticise Lewis's driving this before this race when a year ago decided to punt Lewis off in the rain when he was a lap down.

omer
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 09:12 View all omer's posts

Even Steve Slater (a big fan of British drivers on Star Sports) said the LH move was ¿Egotistical¿. LH came inside a driver¿s line, outbraked himself, forced KR to follow dreaded line, and FM and the others had to follow suite. Look at Kovaleinan¿s reaction to LH move when he jumped into his line, he nearly banged his car onto the sidewall (and he says the move was ¿clean¿). LH showed his arrogance twice in the race. Once when he was overtaken by KR, and he could not believe it, and had to ruin his race. Secondly when Alonso lapped his McLaren, he was head over heels to overtake Alonso. Alonso being the sober of the two let him go because there was no point in contesting. If ruining KR¿s race has to be a race incident, then Felipe¿s ruining LH race has to be a racing incident as well.

Robb
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 09:07 View all Robb's posts

Please lets have Kubica as the world champion and shut the two world whinging chumps up!

fitznstarts
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 08:28 View all fitznstarts's posts

I watched the start again this morning and although Lewis locked up and pushed Kimi to the edge of the track it was Heikki who actually pushed Kimi off. Lewis messed up yes, but didn't deserve a penalty. If he did, why wasn't Kubica given a similar penalty for pushing Kimi off in the closing stages at turn 3 when they were duelling? We have to have overtaking but if the guys are worried about being penalised every time they try, they won't bother. The FIA have to sort out this farce!

CuoreRosso
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 08:23 View all CuoreRosso's posts

SYDJED. If you want to know what happened to the best driver on the track, he actually won the race. While everyone gets the nickers in a knot over Hamilton and Massa, Alonso is showing the true class of a champion. He drives an inferior car and yet he scores consistently AND wins races. It proves once again that Hamilton is only as good as his car and Massa as inconsistent as ever. Both panic under pressure. Had Alonso been in a Ferrari he would have wrapped up the championship 3 races ago. Ron Dennis you're such a whinger!!

lergt
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 07:57 View all lergt's posts

Iam a Hamilton & McClaren Supporter but lets face it he bluffed this weekend I don't see why he opten to race kimi to the 1st corner if he lost the start pace to me that would have been an advantage cause kimi would have given him the pace for the race but this time he made the wrong call as for the massa incidence i think it was an accident so no much to say from me then massa Vs Bourdais I think Massa needs shut up sometimes becuause he benefits alot from the FIA i can imagine if there was a wall would he have taken the chance?

F1Nut
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 07:41 View all F1Nut's posts

McLaren complain a lot don't they? They've always got a good reason why they did nothing wrong. Hami sticks the nose of that McLaren up the inside quite a lot and this time it didn't pay off. He went so deep that he ran off the circuit. That's worth a penalty, the precendent has been set. Must have surprised LH that Kimi got out in front, and I reckon he knows Kimi is conservative for the first two laps or so and decided it was definitely on. I wonder if before the race he and HK had worked out there is so much run-off on that corner they might get away with missing the braking point and recover - either on the inside OR the outside actually. Kimi looked like he was very intent on keeping on the track, while the McLarens both went off and back over the grass and actually came out on track again 3rd and 4th. HK should have been penalised too because it looked like it was as much his push on Kimi that damaged him, but anyway his car gave up soon. Kimi at least preserved his car and got a well-deserved third. It looked to me like Massa's penalty was fair enough but as a result of very agressive pressure from LH. Got to hand it to Lewis, he's sure making things exciting, but taking others off the track is not going to get him the championship.

sydjed
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 07:38 View all sydjed's posts

Which team supplied the clowns to the F1 circus ion the last race? Mclaren. Even Heikki was shocked by Lewis behaviour at the first corner. What happened to the best driver on the trcak and the best at F1 business. Was he not at one point in time chasing down Massa and by his lod mouth antics he was supposed to still win the race form the back? Well the tribe has spoken: Mr Lewis you are not Senna nor Shumie nor Prost. You suck.

erki
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 07:33 View all erki's posts

ham cries like a little baby! and it's not the first time! enough is enogh! massa for champ!

dezbo1960
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 07:31 View all dezbo1960's posts

lets face it lewis screwed up, why not just let kimi through. he was hangover free and up for the race and lets face it he would of passed kimi eventually, but yet again the stewards went to ferrari's rescue with another appauluing decision against sebastain, your right to be upset at the penalties given out but lewis was at fault, but that ferrari idiot was yet again a danger to other drivers and yet again gets rewrded for it

peter
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 07:30 View all peter's posts

poor lewis, poor england...it's a ferrari conspiracy. grow up! isn't it enough that F1 fans have to watch the english version of the sport? interview hamilton senior again, god i mean he's interesting? not. hamilton's start was a shocker. he was completely out of control a the corner, he was a missile aiming at kimi. no only did he ruin kimi's chances, he just about took his team mate out. hamilton and dennis represent everything to loath in english sport - victim mentality...blaming the weather, the stewards, the crowd, ferrari.....alonso was right! look at him now - he looks happy.

galengrassi
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 06:27 View all galengrassi's posts

There is a now a new way of spelling FIArrari.

kaiserx
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 06:21 View all kaiserx's posts

I think Lewis deserved to be penalized because it was clear that Kimi got him at the start and was ahead of him but he just wouldn't accept it and he tried to stick his nose in the inside to regain the lead and it was overly aggressive and dangerous. And as for Felipe, it doesn't looked that he was pushed wide. What I don't understand is, what Sebastien Boudais got penalized for? Perhaps the stewards were thinking that "if there's an incident someones got to be penalized" and it seems that they punished the wrong driver they could have just leave it as a racing incident because Massa already paid/loss some time for his mistake . I think they should do something about the inconsistency of the stewards. But who cares about what I think!

sss2512
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 06:11 View all sss2512's posts

"Everyone went wide [at the start] but for some reason I got a penalty for that. I can't understand that." Well, lewis dear let me drum it into that skull of yours. Everyone went wide because you decided to pull an impossible fightback on the position you had already lost to kimi, thus, running 'everyone' off. Got it? Good. As for the noble ron who said "Drivers miss braking points, they run wide; these things happen. Any experienced motor racing person sees it as a racing incident." Well, whether or not he "missed" his braking point or just didn't want to concede the position and chose to brake far too late is up to debate. I'll just leave it at that.

johnbt
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 04:20 View all johnbt's posts

I noticed Hamilton's ballsy move in turn 1 had similarities with the Spa race but this time Kimi was pushed much wider causing a chain reaction. There can't be smoke without fire. For sure, the pressure is showing to a point of recklessness. I thought he was racing for points in the world title which is much wiser. Maybe Hamilton should do a case study of Alonso's 2005 & 2006 championships. Sometimes, 'to win is to lose' and 'to lose is to win'. Be graceful.

conanconq
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 03:59 View all conanconq's posts

Oh BOO HOO!! If I have to hear Lewis 'CraneBoy' Hamilton cry like a b!tch one more time I'm going to scream! The fact of the matter is that he is an idiot driver - straight up! He lets emotion drive him! No wonder all the other drivers think he's reckless & dangerous! He keeps having 'brain explosions' and acting like a second-rate F3 driver! It quite often works out for him at the expense of others, but then on the occassions it doesn't he crys like a spoilt brat! I'm sick of Hamilton, in my opinion he's wrecking motorsport - he's believing his own hype! Hey Hamilton - I can't wait for you to be a 2-time World Championship CHOKER!!

spitfire21
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 03:33 View all spitfire21's posts

LH is always moving strongly at the starts, I wonder how didn't he caused a major accident up to now. He should be punished for dangerous starting in the first place (pun not intended). As for today's spin with Massa, he did run wide while passing Massa, who could not brake at the turn to avoid him. Next turn Massa was in the inside with unstopable momentum, half on the grass, and contact was inevitable. That I consider a racing accident.

CooperS
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 03:06 View all CooperS's posts

Face it guys, Hamilton is a nit wit, he had the championship won and all he had to do was not lose and that is exactly what he is doing. He did it last year and will repeat this year. Come Kubica take the crown, neither Lewis or Massa deserve it

Kenz
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 02:56 View all Kenz's posts

Who is the guy who ruined and made a choas on the first corner?? Some drivers went to the gravel & grass, some have a colission because of you. Is it clear Mr. 22nd ? Your moved is like that you want to invite other drivers for your wedding ceremony while they didn't to go because they had a racing. Anyway to Mr. P, ohh.. sorry Mr. D, you always complain and blame others rival if something goes wrong because your own problem...

pippo
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 01:57 View all pippo's posts

well what can you do??It's the stewards call...and we have a ferrari..that has always been the case right??mclaren always seem to get the sort end of the stick

other44
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 01:52 View all other44's posts

lewis got what he deserved... and let his driving prove what kubica was saying about him! haha.. he is dangerous and arrogant!

t2_f1
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 01:45 View all t2_f1's posts

Hamilton and Ron Dennis are just being losers. They shouldn't blame the stewards every time McLaren fails to perform. As a matter of fact, the McLarens lack race pace in dry conditions big time when compared to the Ferraris. Especially in Japan, when the conditions were in their favour (like Bridgestone's choice of not bringing in super soft compounds and cooler ambient temperatures). I wonder what can be the explanation for Hamilton lapping in 1min 20+sec range when Massa was lapping in 1min 18+sec range. Hamilton was anyways out of points. I wonder what was stopping him from making every lap a qualifying lap when he knew his race was already screwed up. You don't worry about eating up your tires by driving fast when you're already way out of points. And you have your engine joker to play, so engine should also not be a concern. Atleast that could have pushed Massa for a possible mistake. After all he was only 7 sec ahead of Hamilton at one point of the race!!! You've to try new things and give it your everything when you know you are at a disadvantage. Learn from Renault. Alonso qualified poorly but chose to be a maverick and go on super softs in Singapore in the first stint which ultimately proved one of the factors that he could win that race. McLaren's decision not to go all out sometimes suggests that they are losing the extraordinary passion for motor racing they used to have. Lately Ron Dennis also has been busy hailing and embracing circuits like Valencia and Singapore which offer no overtaking opportunity but only some good facilities and the spectacle of night racing. He never came out openly and strongly against dropping of an excellent circuit like Montreal. It's a shame. PS: I am and have always been a die hard McLaren fan.

wearadidas
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 00:34 View all wearadidas's posts

maybe 'brucetravis' needs to learn how to spell 'McLaren' before he starts bagging them out.

Realistic1
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 23:36 View all Realistic1's posts

dave, are you serious???? the two instances you have provided are apples and oranges....and i am a toyota fan for crying out loud....Kimi had lost control at monaco but never tried to power bomb into the inside of Sutil...wet race track vs. dry race track and an egotistical moron that used the ferraris as a break...perhaps had he not shot up the inside and slid through the whole corner and pushed practically the whole field wide...and perhaps just sat and acumulated points like he always says he is going to do, then all would have worked out....but no....he decided to push...Macca and Lewis have nobody to blame but themselves..as usual.

F1PuertoRico
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 23:17 View all F1PuertoRico's posts

Massa is a average driver with a good car.He cant accept that Hamilton overtake him with style and breed. Put Massa back and he is the most crappy driver that you ever seen.

WeAreRacing
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 22:47 View all WeAreRacing's posts

Oh dear, what a performance by BOTH the front-runners. Kudos to..... Alonso, Kubica, Piquet, Vettel, Bourdais.. When all around are losing their heads.... looking forward to Shanghai and Interlagos, best man wins I hope with NO stewards intervention.

mitch999
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 22:43 View all mitch999's posts

brucetravis i appreciate a Ferrari point of view sure but try and see this from an objective point of view. Im not a McLaren or LH fan but I can see the travesty this has caused and this has added more fuel to the fire that the FIA and stewards are collaborating against McLaren. Ive though this for years.

mclarenbaby
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 22:41 View all mclarenbaby's posts

brucetravis. first learn how to spell mclaren. your obviously a tool. it simple and clear for everyone to see that there was no problem at turn one. do you drive or try to race anything? i doubt you can even drive a golf kart. stop making petty and pathetic comments. hamilton went deep, but how many times do we experience this without consequence? massa is a nose strip breathin lover that saw a chance to knock his rival and shaft him. lucky for his brazilian ass he got a drive through, which should realistically of been a stop go penalty. but my final point is plain and simple. hamilton is takin the next two races for twenty points, y'all watch this space.

sutton111
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 22:41 View all sutton111's posts

davedj- where was Lewis' penalty when he drove in to the back of Kimi in Canada he obviously saw them but drove right into the back of him.

alfaspa
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 22:40 View all alfaspa's posts

you mclaren twits should be thankful for kimi's sportsmanship and skill! rather than foaming at the mouth about how felipe was in the wrong you would do well to remember that if kimi wanted to, he could have turned in as he was entitled to and would have been hit by a sliding and out of control lewis ham-bone-tin thus taking them both out! boy wouldn't you conspiracy-loving bunch of pommie plonkers have loved that! except that you would have been forced to consider david 'squarehead' DOtard and the number of times he has been in that situation all season long and the number of penalties that has incurred!!! that's right ya bunch of nancy-boys! ZERO!!! i chortle with utter contempt for you because you are quite content to consider lewis's move to be a racing-incident not worthy of a penalty, but if kimi had turned in and loo-is had been taken out... calls of 'he did it intentionally!' and 'that was not a racing-incident!' would clearly be the order of the day!!! it is in fact my humble opinion that with exception of the lone lass in your crew who supports ferrari (brave off her!) you're all a bunch of trolls who just lure people like me to your site with your vitriolic and biased 'commentary' to pump up your advertising figures!!! DAMN IT!!! it worked! i flippin' registered!!!

jackdyson31
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 22:31 View all jackdyson31's posts

I completely agree, McLaren need to stop acting like this, they were the little do-gooders in the last race after Ferrai's diaster and now that htings have not gone their way they start this. After all the fuss the stark truth is Ferrari put in an average performance for them points-wise, so one point or two, McLaren have nothing to worry about. We are the ones behind not them. And what happened to Lewis' conserve and drive policy this time out ? How come no one questioned Heikki's role as a spoiler (or aero-ram) ? What about what Mark Webber did (what would happen if Massa or Hamilton did it ?) ? It was strange when asked on Italian TV about Hamilton, Dennis said he was relaxed etc ... I didn't think so then, and certainly not now. And for this reason McLaren perhaps are making excuses for him, which is fast becoming the norm. Hamilton is a DANGEROUS DRIVER : Media (English speaking) interpretation : Hamilton is EXCITING. There are differences between what he does and what Senna or Schumi or Mansell were into - they were in control of their talenet, he is out of control of it ... Alla prossima regazzi ... :)

Deric
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 22:27 View all Deric's posts

I couldn't agree more davedj,its sad that FIA's desire to see the world championship go to ferrari is dispicable, frivolous and its highly detrimental to F1, aidy sutil clearly deserved several points in monaco but becoz its a ferrari we turn a blind eye. wat Lewis did is purely a racing incident and mclaren should appeal to have those 30secs removed from Lewis' time.

senna555
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 21:57 View all senna555's posts

A quick message to the FIA and their persistant assistance with the Ferrari F1 team this year. CLAP CLAP CLAP. Oh, and CLAP CLAP CLAP. If Max Mosley had been the boss of McLaren and got caught playing war games with his private bits do you think he would have given himself a drive through penalty?!?! Well as long as he had his fuel rig attached I think he was playing safe. Maybe a little RED faced though. Guess what, I've had a dream, Lewis or McLaren will do something, anything wrong in the next 2 races - not sure what it will be but I'm pretty sure they will be very very naughty and it will result in them finishing behind the car number???? hmm???? 2!!!!

Franco_Baracca
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 21:56 View all Franco_Baracca's posts

AAAAWWWWWW BOOOOHOOOOOOO Lewis! You are such a child, grow up. You messed up all by yourself.

jlgarbutt
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 21:55 View all jlgarbutt's posts

Lewis ruined his race on turn 1 of the first lap.... then had to play catch up. Stop blamin everyone else for your own short comings lewis,

senna555
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 21:51 View all senna555's posts

Please may I apply for the job of chief steward. I feel I have all the qualifications needed. I have a provisional driving licence. I know a fine wine after a few bottles. I had a Chinese takeaway the other night so I'm well prepared for the next race. Oh, and my favourite colour is RED. I'm guaranteed to get the job now!!

steve1471
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 21:41 View all steve1471's posts

i think they should just get rid of the stewards and stop them from interfering with the racing! atleast lewis still gives it 110% every race and is willing to take risks. let face it, theres no fun in f1 if the drivers dont take risks. it would just turn into a precession!

finishline
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 21:31 View all finishline's posts

Decision was correct Lewis was so relaxed before the race he fell asleep at the start, and when he did realized the race was under way did a truly moronic move. FIA right call.

michaell
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 21:19 View all michaell's posts

And shut up brucetravis. If you can't see how the championship is being manipulated and choreographed by the FIA and the stewards, then you are dimmer than I thought.

dlroberts10
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 21:17 View all dlroberts10's posts

Hamilton always feels like the victim. Who the heck does he think he is! He is not a great driver. He's fast (very fast in fact)yes, but he doesn't know how to think ahead. He had no reason to race Kimi at the 1st corner and there is another camera angle which alot of people haven't seen which seems to show him deliberately pushing Kimi wide. He messes his tyres up (yet again) and then he has the audacity to almost take Alonso out on the last lap just cuz he didn't wanna be a lap down. I think he deserves more penalties. And what is it with people (including Hamilton) saying he's being victimized because of his color?? Grow up!!

fairplay
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 20:49 View all fairplay's posts

Like I've written in other posts,farce one is more appropriate than formula one.The sooner this season is finished the better as although F1 has turned into a sick riddle,I'm still addicted to viewing it,rigged results included.GPMA is the only way,the FIA & Bernie are doing their level best to destroy our once beloved sport.No Canadian GP;just because it didn't suit Ecclepebbles investment portfolio,never mind the interests of global car manufactures,now with no avenues to north America.I think they call that type of self interest-selfish.

watchcam
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 20:46 View all watchcam's posts

The stewards/FIA are running out of races in which to help Massa/Ferrari out. They will become more desparate with each of the last two Grand Prix. Wonder what they will do next. Just hang in there Lewis!

f1_freak_666
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 20:39 View all f1_freak_666's posts

Once again McLaren and Hamilton refuse to accept any blame for what was clearly the most dangerous incident we've seen all season. They're bitter because they got caught cheating last year and yet still they think they are above the rules. If Hamilton gets pushed off the track, they kick and scream like a bunch of spoilt school girls, but if Hamilton does it it's just a racing incident and the only reason they were punished is because the FIA is against them and support Ferrari. The ITV commentary was so much better this week, when it wasn't being led by the Hamilton fan club. It was nice to hear a balanced view for once, that dared to suggest that perhaps the sun doesn't shine out of Hamiltons backside.

Tanners
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 20:25 View all Tanners's posts

Stewards decisions a joke once again! At least they are showing consistency! Hamilton makes a mistake and doesn't hit anyone. Massa drives into one car and gets the same penalty, then a bonus point for crashing into another one.

Wilder
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 20:15 View all Wilder's posts

Everyone "went wide" because Hamilton yet again launched an impossible move up the inside that was NEVER ever going to have a prayer of success. He did this rather than yield the places lost through a poor start. The reason why he was penalised is because a number of cars lost positions though a move that could easily have resulted in carnage had they not taken avoiding action , in some cases going off the race track to do so (Kimi) - yet all the Macca fans can say is he did nothing wrong...open your eyes and look at the footage again. The Ferraris were positions 2 & 3 going into the corner. Had they have followed the normal line they would have been cleaned out by Hamilton who took his tyres down to the canvas in the bargain. They rejoined in positions 7th & 8th, and both Maclarens had all 4 wheels off the track at the first corner. Kovelinen was completely over the grass verge and actually on the escape road before bringing it back onto the track. Hamilton also had all 4 wheels clearly some 8 -10 ft from the edge of the racetrack, and after recent events would that be considered maintaining an advantage? Watch the footage again in slow motion & see for yourselves.

Buffy
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 20:07 View all Buffy's posts

I can't remember a time when Mclaren seemed more and more desperate. I understand that they have won nothing for years but come on, put a lid on it. I am capable of making up my own mind...you do not need to do it for me every race! This whole thing is getting embarrassing for you.

SCUDERIA
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 19:59 View all SCUDERIA's posts

ANOTHER CASE OF MCLAREN BEING UNHAPPY AND MAKING THEIR OWN RULES. THEY DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED BUT THEIR ERRORS ARE ALWAYS FORGIVEN. THEY ADMIT TO THEIR MISTAKE BUT THE DONT ACCEPT THE PUNISHMENT. BEING A BRITTISH TEAM THEY ARE ALWAYS FORGIVEN AND THE PRESS ARE BIASED TOWARDS TRHEM. MASSA AND FERARI WERE WELL WITH IN THEIR RIGHTS IN THE RACE FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP

SCUDERIA
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 19:59 View all SCUDERIA's posts

ANOTHER CASE OF MCLAREN BEING UNHAPPY AND MAKING THEIR OWN RULES. THEY DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED BUT THEIR ERRORS ARE ALWAYS FORGIVEN. THEY ADMIT TO THEIR MISTAKE BUT THE DONT ACCEPT THE PUNISHMENT. BEING A BRITTISH TEAM THEY ARE ALWAYS FORGIVEN AND THE PRESS ARE BIASED TOWARDS TRHEM. MASSA AND FERARI WERE WELL WITH IN THEIR RIGHTS IN THE RACE FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP

djp88
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 19:56 View all djp88's posts

brucetravis, first of all learn how to spell McLaren, and then admit that they are being bullied by the FIA and Fm is a twat, thank you

touchyu2
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 19:45 View all touchyu2's posts

I don't have a cat in this fight but it sure seems to add up long term to a lot more strange penalties for McLaren then against Ferrari maybe it's just me or whatever?

Luigismen
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 19:44 View all Luigismen's posts

This is bullsh*t, Lewis braked late, everyone did.. he didn't push wide no one, but he gets a penalty, why is that kimi didn't get one at spa, he pushed wide lewis at the first corner... this is clear conspiracy, look at the incident with bourdais... it suck

pcornwell
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 19:29 View all pcornwell's posts

"Everyone went wide [at the start] but for some reason I got a penalty for that. I can't understand that." No, you got a penalty for using your car as a blunt instrument.

ardugpc
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 19:04 View all ardugpc's posts

So sorry to hear about your view angel (LH) the stewards seemed to forgot that you are incapable of making any mistakes, and that everyone is at fault. Even if you risked it to break very late to create this illusion, and putting no one else at risk. Just shows you, Kimmi doesn't have balls of steel, his got sense, but someone in a Silver car ruined his race at the start, but still managed to end up on the podium, and not blaming anyone. Difference between a champ and a wannabe, racing and talking. This looks like a replay of last year, to much pressure?

ronniepilgrim35
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 19:02 View all ronniepilgrim35's posts

man! their faces are made of steel!!! hammy took everyone oput with him, "everyone else also ran wide" he says, but he pushed everyon, because he could keep his head cool after loosing 2 or 3 places, my god, its simply the worse driver out of a car we´ve ever seen!! he might drive good, but when he talks to the press, he shows what a complete narcisist he is

davedj
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 18:54 View all davedj's posts

Were was ferrari's penalty when raikkonen went in to the back of sutil in monaco,no different to what Lewis did today,fix

Jaggersbwn
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 18:53 View all Jaggersbwn's posts

I can't believe Massa claimed he was pushed wide, he's a very lucky boy, if I was him I'd be keeping my head down & staying very quiet with regards to some of the very strange decisions made to his benefit today.

brucetravis
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 18:50 View all brucetravis's posts

Shades of '07! What the F are Lewis and Dennis talking about? Even the normally stout merc defenders Brundle and Allen acknowledged during the race that Lh once again lost his cool under pressure, forcing Kr wide at turn 1! Lh raising a retrospective complaint is simply grasping at straws. Style up or shut up Maclaren!

ElvisBeavis
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 18:48 View all ElvisBeavis's posts

They penalised him because Kimi was too asleep to realise what was going on and as the pic at the top of this article shows, probably should've let lewis sail on by and taken the corner as usual. I didn't see any contact between the two. I might be wrong of course but it looked like Lewis' mistake opened a huge opportunity for the following pack but most of them squandered that opportunity through there own stupidity. Certainly not worth a drive through.

kris1983
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 18:46 View all kris1983's posts

yeah....i sure do accept what you said "whytep"....these guyz are ruining F1(especially FIA, Ferrari and Massa)....its crystal clear that FIA and the Stewards are making so many silly mistakes(deliberate ones) and so often!!!!!! even the so-called "Ferrari Fans" and the "Real F1 Fans" who support ferrari and FIA, they also know that its becoming an unfair competition and McLaren are STILL fighting with all the odds against them!!!!!! Cheers to McLaren, Cheers to all their crew, Cheers to their drivers, and Cheers to Ron!!!!!!

Fluffy
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 18:38 View all Fluffy's posts

Agree whytep, this has just got too farcical for words. Everyone is saying (except the real loony Alonso/Ferrari fans) that this has never happened as bad in F1 before so it is obviously an anti-Hamiton thing.

lollypopman
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 18:33 View all lollypopman's posts

Lewis, when you become a champion this year... mark my word..... you would become a double worthy champion because not only you won against the ferraris, but also the against the FIA who back-up the ferraris!! -------------------now that's something---------------never happend before since Ayrton grabbed his chance back in 1990 to beat Balestre's controversial decission (changing his start position on pole to the dusty one), and from losing it the previous year in 1989 from another bad FIA decission.

whytep
Posted 12/10/2008 @ 18:25 View all whytep's posts

I think its an amazing show of character from the Mclaren team that they don't take the whole damn FIA circus to court and sue for a massive amount of money, then get the hell outta such an obviously rigged competition. Credit to Ron and the boys...

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