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allanofdenmark
Posted 07/07/2009 @ 06:36 View all allanofdenmark's posts

Maybe Bernie just made these comments to draw the focus of attention away from Max

Baron
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 20:25 View all Baron's posts

Very interesting! I have not agreed with Bernie in some time.But what he said today was correct, history wise, not many have the gall to say so today! Bernie lets hear more this is good to hear!

balooziggy
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 17:21 View all balooziggy's posts

Rowan Atkinson for FIA President....It's guaranteed to be a laugh a minute instead of every second week!

irriz
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 16:37 View all irriz's posts

Please for the sake of the sports lets talk about sports now.Whats done is done whats said is said.We have to forget the past now that mad max is going.Now we are ready for the next season.

balooziggy
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 16:35 View all balooziggy's posts

I believe the little gray matter Bernie had between his fanning ears has emmigrated in disgust to the ends of his thinning hair! :-)

Robbeh
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 16:34 View all Robbeh's posts

Well done everyone for giving Bernie exactly what he wants! Let's look at this rationally. This weekend is the German GP, the last one at the 'ring, unless the German state of Baden-Wuerttemberg offers to give Bernie some money. Bernie doesn't want to keep it at the ring because he knows some middle eastern country will give him more money to host the event there, but at the same time, he doesn't want to look like the bad guy for cancelling yet another popular race. So, what to do? Eureka! Mention the Nazis in Germany, and the public outcry will prevent the German state from offering Bernie any public money to keep the race in Germany. Congratulations you all fell for it, and we just lost the German GP.

spitfire21
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 15:04 View all spitfire21's posts

Machiavelli would have a poster of Bernie hanging on his wall.

cannotbeserious
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 14:25 View all cannotbeserious's posts

ozi_owl I turst you are not referring to Hitler! ..he did get things done - yes killed millions of innocent people!

ozi_owl
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 07:00 View all ozi_owl's posts

Thing is (ironically)...you wouldn't agree with how he did it, but he did get things done? Bernie's moral standing, not his mental state is in question here!

SpaFranKoChamps
Posted 06/07/2009 @ 04:30 View all SpaFranKoChamps's posts

That's why they're called "dictators". The issue is what they've done. In most cases it's been something along the lines of human rights violations, mass murders, some form of ethnic cleansing, political cleansing and invasion of neighbouring countries. So using this example in light of Mr Max Moseley's indiscretions (his costume parties etc) is a little bit strange. Does Bernie exist in some alternate reality? Just before the German GP as well, unbelievable !

interiorman
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 22:32 View all interiorman's posts

keep digging Bernie, do us all a favour share a hole with Max

NickUSA
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 21:57 View all NickUSA's posts

Bernie is unfit for leadership. His comments are inappropriate at best and inflammatory at worst. He needs to resign.

ovphoto
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 19:31 View all ovphoto's posts

Bernie and Mad Max ought to just retire,They got a lot of money get some new blood into FIA

kwhyte
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 19:18 View all kwhyte's posts

If this is a man who belives Hitler was one of his hero's then he should be tried before the Nurnberg FIA and banned from having any connection with the sport.

tonto
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 19:00 View all tonto's posts

Bernie i said DON'T MENTION THE WAR.

Pops59
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 16:49 View all Pops59's posts

Bernie is obviously deranged and needs to be sent packing NOW !

Bannor
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 15:57 View all Bannor's posts

Whether his comments were misconstrued or not is completely irrelevant; the fact is that he has been around in this business long enough to give answers that are more guarded (and therefore more difficult to misconstrue). The fact that he gives answers that can EASILY be taken out of context shows that he just doesn't give a toss about it - or, for that matter, the general public, the fans, the teams, etc.

Boult
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 15:03 View all Boult's posts

Possibly a step too far - yes. I visited Auschwitz 3 weeks ago and am still shaking with sadness and fury that man could coerce man to do that to man. "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts abolutely" He's probably right on Brown and Blair though....

shortsighted
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 13:51 View all shortsighted's posts

The greedy Bernie should release his tight control of the financial side of F1 now. His effort to save his helper in Mad M for his F1 fortune is laughable and insulting to our intellect. A bad dictator is capable of ruining a country beyond salvation and it is the case for F1 too. I hope the FIA board members like us will just ignore this greedy man.

iceman_mohsin
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 12:13 View all iceman_mohsin's posts

i think we cant force anyone to change his views , i also like adolf hitler in some ways. why media ask this type of question , its not Bernie fault.

PeterF
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 12:04 View all PeterF's posts

The fact here is simple: Bernie believes in dictatorship. Of course that dictators almost never turn out well for whoever and what ever they are dictating over is of no consequence or interest to Bernie. (Or surprisingly a lot of F1 'fans' here!) Why? Because Bernie only cares about one thing: Money. So Max has delivered money to Bernie so what could possibly be the problem? How he did it is of no concern! And so what if people were run over along the way, (or put into gas chambers) so what? Bernie got paid, so all turned out for the good (for Bernie) after all! And no, it is not surprising that Bernie cites Hitler and Sadam as examples of the good dictators can do. (Of course they were not that good for Jews and Kurds... or in Max's case, F1 fans, teams and drivers)

deepwater330
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 11:56 View all deepwater330's posts

Yet again PF1 steers the direction and manipulates the appearance of opinion by selective publication of comments. I criticised PF1 for being hypocritical in publishing supposed rules for response to this when in the past they have continually made irrelevant reference to Max Mosley's father as a snide means of denigrating Max. Of course such comments, which run contrary to the PF1 party line, never seem to get published. I¿m sure you receive thousands of comments and you cannot publish all . . . . . I¿m not concerned about that . . . . . it¿s just that at times there does seem a high degree of selectivity. I guess you won't publish this either, but I'll keep expressing my view.

Max_Headroom
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 10:31 View all Max_Headroom's posts

Incidentally whilst were looking at Bernie's (unfortunately) ill thought Guardian interview comments, I,ve been looking through the (I think) original interview given to the Times. It seems that he wasn't just extolling the virtues of some dictator(ships) but when asked his opinion on women said "If it were possible I would love to have a good lady racing driver and preferably black & Jewish, but they might take maternity leave" I can't give an opinion, just direct quotes and that's what you've got. Is the poor chap intent on self-destruction?

petefrombristol
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 08:27 View all petefrombristol's posts

I think what he was trying to say was that there's no room for concensus politics in F1 because all the players are too strong. A rather picturesque and misjudged way of saying it though, but should anyone be surprised? He's in in his eighties and maybe he is losing it a bit now.

fairplay
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 08:02 View all fairplay's posts

I suspect this is being blown out of proportion due to the lack of anything worthy of news from the F1 world of late.Maybe if we return to in season testing we'll no longer have to endure such nonsensical dribble.We'd all be arguing about what really matters then,the racing.

mydan
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 07:37 View all mydan's posts

My word I detest you bunch of left wingers. You're a disgrace, getting up in arms over NOTHING. Concentrate on the facts. He didn't say, "Yeah, you know what? I love what Hitler did!" Now whether you think Hitler was a good or bad leader is up to you, and personally, I think in order to get his army to do what they did means he had to be pretty good at leading. But I, like 99% of people, including Bernie, think his role in WW2 was dispicable and disgusting! But seriously, you lot need to learn how to distinguish. I've been following F1 avidly since 1997, and to be honest, I can't come up with many, if indeed any things that Max has done that warrants all this hate for him. Can someone enlighten me as to any fundamental reasons? (Comments about nearly destroying F1 not welcome - as FOTA were equally stubborn, and FOTA doesn't have the FIA's history nor position of being governing body of F1 for 60 years, something no President is going to give up - EVER). That means he would be a better leader than Gordon Brown or Tony Blair - they back tracked and changed their minds constantly. How respectable. Dan.

CanadianFan
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 06:52 View all CanadianFan's posts

Is there no one in CVC, the FIA, or FOTA who can "get things done" and get this loonie removed from power before F1 disappears down the drain that it is rapidly circling right now?

Cassios
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 06:33 View all Cassios's posts

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie..... YOU IDIOT!

GoDogGo
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 05:30 View all GoDogGo's posts

All of F1's sponsors: Prepare for a MASSIVE storm. It's coming, and you're all going to lose out big if you don't do the right thing.

igorotak
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 04:34 View all igorotak's posts

Talking about SENILITY!!!, F1 seems to be full of it. Bernie in his age should be gracious enough to say to HIMSELF, I've become a BILLIONAIRE in expense of F1 and its FANS, its CIRCUITS, The countries with their love of Motorsports sacrificed losing MILLIONS of their taxpayers money just to part of F1 year in year out, it's time for ME to stepdown and give the rein to young and SENSIBLE people. One asked if there's a way to get rid of BERNIE. There is One. All GP circuit owners, Corporations, Countries should form an Organization or Association the same as that of FOTA, so as a group they can demand for him to step down or bargain and get there share of the money. Why can't Bernie be happy with a few millions and share the rest. The circuits get their share of the money, the fans get to see the races at cheaper, reasonable prices then everyone is happy. It's a big ask but with unity there is strength as the cliche goes.

deepfridge
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 02:58 View all deepfridge's posts

I had a lot of trouble finding the original Times article on line,did manage to get up the 1st page and reading that it woud seem he has not been quoted out of context as some have suggested .He praises Saddam and the Taleban,when asked to name his favourite historical leader selects Hitler,demean's democracy a system that has allowed him to prosper,and his thought' (if that's the right word) on Barack Obama ? What I wonder will the F1 movers and shakers in Germany/Austria /Italy in particular make of this.This is the man that also describes Europe as "Third World" yet has to try and re schedule the Eastern races start times cos' he is losing European TV revenues! He has identified himself as not a fit and proper person to conduct an international business,hopefully he has done for himself and Max,sadly given the blinkered/selfish oulook of many FI people probably not.

wwonka365
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 02:56 View all wwonka365's posts

What this does, is to totally support why this clown should be gone from Formula 1. Of course he praises Max; after all, it was Max who sold him the commercial rights to F1. Undoubtedly one of the most brilliant things "to have made happen" in recent memory. Be gone Bernie. One down and one to go.

race
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 02:41 View all race's posts

Bernie has an opinion and isn't scared to us it!

untac93
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 02:40 View all untac93's posts

The Max and Bernie show is crumbling and their true personalities are being shown to the world. F1 does not need these kind of people

srp204
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 01:17 View all srp204's posts

And if we ever mention Hilter and Mosley in the same sentence our comments are not posted. But I guess if he could get Max as the PM he could bleed every taxpayer in Britian.

halifaxf1fan
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 00:54 View all halifaxf1fan's posts

F1 is becoming a bad joke.

diffuser1
Posted 05/07/2009 @ 00:07 View all diffuser1's posts

Poor "bloke"...must have been off his medications...was he drooling out of one side of his mouth at the time? He just outdid Mosley for "moron of the week" but only barely!

Nullius123
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 21:50 View all Nullius123's posts

One thing is for sure: after Bernie finally retires, the commercial arrangements for F1 need a complete overhaul. The days of a (dictator-loving) dictator in F1 must end. The fact that there is no way to remove or replace Bernie as commercial rights holder reveals just how out of whack things are.

Danball
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 21:31 View all Danball's posts

Not forgetting the shock of this press statement, the underlying message seems to me that Max wants a strong FIA president, Bernie thinks Max is a strong leader and FOTA can probably expect a knife in the back anytime sooner or later.

sourasis
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 21:27 View all sourasis's posts

It is the limit... The world needs these sore losers out of media now.. bernie n max are unable 2 realise that are not needed anymore...

Danball
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 21:17 View all Danball's posts

It´s a bit strange how the F1 bosses past and present seem all to have Hilter on their "people to look up to" list, so how low are they?

fastrack
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 21:14 View all fastrack's posts

Get this guy out of power!

Snake
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 21:09 View all Snake's posts

A step too far? More like runnning as fast as he can before leaping off the tallest cliff!!

amoore
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 20:57 View all amoore's posts

Bernie again proves how completely stupid he is. A Strong leader does not mean a good leader. Hitler was a madman, as is Mosley and Bernie himself. In some cases strong leadership is called a dictatorship. Much like the present leadership of F1 and the FIA.

woodsiesr
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 20:33 View all woodsiesr's posts

It's high time for FOTA to move on with their plans of a breakaway series. Bernie is definitely too con"TROLL"ing. This fiasco has gone on long enough. Move on.

ronniepilgrim35
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 20:03 View all ronniepilgrim35's posts

this man is a genious.. he makes me laugh so much, its pure entertainment...

intimad8tr
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 19:50 View all intimad8tr's posts

Is this what F1 has become an Idiot named Bernie who quotes Adolph Hitler and Max who has failed as president of F1.Its time for new leadership to move the sport into the future.If F1 and FOTA did split apart look at the past CART-IRL split for the results the sport will suffer .

spade
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 19:35 View all spade's posts

How is it that this guy can consitently put his big foot in his mouth. No one says that you must be politically correct in your thought but damn. If I were Max I would be trying to get Bernie to stop helping me. I don't know that I would want to be lumped in with Adolph Hitler Saddam Hussein and the Taliban.

rej1972
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 19:16 View all rej1972's posts

Bernie proving he can get away with anything.

kpcart
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 19:03 View all kpcart's posts

Max Mosely a good leader? Bernie, do you realise Max has failed completely as FIA president?? I think Bernie has hit the dementia fase in his life, his time is up.

Rocket_
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 18:53 View all Rocket_'s posts

Rigfht b4 the german gp as well - what a chump!

Norm
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 18:19 View all Norm's posts

That's it - Bernie has now definitively proven that he's completely out of his mind. Is there some way to get him to accompany Max into well-deserved obscurity?

Allrace
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 18:06 View all Allrace's posts

It'll be interesting to see how sturdy Bernie's teflon coating is now. Stupid old man.

RickThompson500
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 17:59 View all RickThompson500's posts

this man is crazy, he needs to be in a farm in the back contry tending pigs

fastrack
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 17:58 View all fastrack's posts

Bernie has really lost it this time. How much longer can these two clowns stay in their positions? How dare this man say such thing.

watchcam
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 17:28 View all watchcam's posts

Maggie was an awesome PM though. Saying things about Hitler like this is crazy though. Few will accept this as acceptable. It is plain bizarre. He needs help!

autogyro
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 17:25 View all autogyro's posts

It looks like comments from only Zionist controlled history are allowed on this site.

Max_Headroom
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 17:13 View all Max_Headroom's posts

Sorry but to put @"deepwater" straight, the Guardian QUOTES as follows "ADOLF HITLER WAS A MAN WHO WAS ABLE TO GET THINGS DONE!" Not much room for interpretation there, is there?..............."Politicians are too worried about elections, we did a terrible thing when we supported the idea of getting rid of Saddam Hussein, he was theonly one who could control (CONTROL!) the country. It was the same with (the Taliban)" I think that you'll find journalists a little more worried than me about libel. THESE ARE QUOTES FROM THE GUARDIAN! read and weep 'cause I certainly wept!

woodsiesr
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 17:02 View all woodsiesr's posts

This comment is not in reference to anyone in F1, but is merely an observation. It would appear that hiding under a bridge, counting your money can seriously affect your sanity.

daedster
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 17:02 View all daedster's posts

I would find it extremely amusing if, at the German GP, Bernie was denied entry into Germany for his demeaning remarks. It is refreshing to see that Bernie has found a way to lower my already appallingly low opinion of him to an even lower level.

Mappy
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 16:55 View all Mappy's posts

I could make a comment on this story, but nothing I have to say will be allowed on Comments. Suffice to say that, when I read the story, my face spent half the time buried in the palms of my hands. Retirement was designed to stop people in positions of power from making errors of judgement like this. The utter dissociation from reality beggars belief.

Smiler
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 16:54 View all Smiler's posts

I think people are missing the point about his remarks on Hitler. He never said the guys morals were right and he was a model person. He simply noted that the bloke got things done, which in all fairness he did. He was able to inspire thousands upon thousands of people to do what he wanted, right or wrong that's what he did. The fact his ideals were the worst imaginable has nothing to do with what Bernie is saying. I'm not a fan of Bernie either just people are getting the wrong end of the stick here.

racegypsy
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 16:49 View all racegypsy's posts

With friends like Bernie, Max doesn't need any (more) enemies!

woodsiesr
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 16:38 View all woodsiesr's posts

Unfrigginbeleivable !! Lay off the Mumms Bernie.

JetJockey
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 16:37 View all JetJockey's posts

Since it seems PF1 won't allow us to write what we really think, I'll just say this... If ever anyone required any more proof that Formula 1 is controlled by two dictators that won't allow anyone else a say on anything on how to run the series, well I don't know what else you need for proof. It is high time for FOTA to move on and go ahead with their own new series far away from Ecclestone and the FIA/Mosley. For the sake of the sport, FOTA please leave!

racerrick48
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 16:37 View all racerrick48's posts

To: jezatmh...I agree with you about the FOTA...They seem to be the only group in F1 who have any concept of what the fans want, and what the sport needs...I sent them a congratulatory letter when Max finally gave in, and they actually answered it, thanking me for my support and stating that they would continue to work in the best ierests of F1 and everyone involved, including the fans! I was rather impressed that theyhad someone take he time to reply to a simple, long time F1 fan...If only Bernie could learn from their example!

bresho
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 15:56 View all bresho's posts

So let me see if I get this straight: Hitler was the sane one in the Third Reich?!?!? REALLY?!?!? Bernie seems totally ignorant about Third Reich history, because every version that I have read or heard about (even the Nazi version), shows that it was Hitler who was so obsessed with the whole racial purity question, it was Hitler who said he would never compromise about his beliefs about people of the Jewish faith, it was him who always wanted to deal with the "Jewsih question". One only needs to flip through the pages of his book to see the kind of hatred that man had not only for people of the Jewish faith, but also Russians, and in general, anyone that he percieved as being racially unpure! He thought the Russians were a race that was put on earth to be slaves to the Germans! Despite the objection of most of his military commanders, he was intent on invading the Soviet Union to enslave the Russian people. Up until the last minute, Hitler would ramble on and on about how all the troubles of Germany were caused by "Jews, or people working for Jews" (his last recorded declaration)! Bernie, it's the other way around, it was Hitler who persuaded everyone else around him to do the crazy things they did. Hitler, just as any man, cannot be judged on only some of the things he's done ('command a lot of people, able to get things done'), he can only be judged on the sum of his actions: he might have gotten some things done, he might have built up Germany, but he was also the one that brought it crashing down to its knees... mic6ard, it isn't just weird that Bernie would compare Max to Hitler, it is extremely ironic, as it is the kind of comparison Max has been trying to avoid all his career! Just being called a dictator was enough to get him to act like a 5 year old ("apologize or else...")!

freewi11
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 15:53 View all freewi11's posts

I dunno if I got my history right but didn't Hitler lost the war? Sure he had absolute authority and control of his party and the country; but he had too much to control. He didn't give his generals to make personal decisions in the battlefield and all critical decision must go through Hitler, unlike the Allies. Otherwise, ww2 might turned out differently.

shlick
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 15:52 View all shlick's posts

wow, there is a reason governments have established a retirement age, seriously this guy should have retired along with Max a while ago. While Max stepping down is good news, makes you wonder whats going to happen the day Bernie calls it a day, who will he sell his commercial rights too, i guess whoever replaces Bernie will spark the second FOTA war, funny how all this oftrack silliness is so much better then the racing this year, anyone need any further proof that Button will make the world's most boring world champion. Watching americans go round and round in cricles in their attempt to race will soon become better then the Button vs Rubens snooze fest. Lets just hope the racing improves next year

hollanders
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 15:30 View all hollanders's posts

It's his arrogance, that lets him think he can get away with anything.Blame the sport for kowtowing to his every whim.No one can question Bernie, retribution is always on the cards.

racingforindia
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 15:09 View all racingforindia's posts

This time he has crossed the limits of sanity, BIG TIME. Referring to Hitler and justifying what he did is not acceptable. This will have far reaching reparations.

deepwater330
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 14:58 View all deepwater330's posts

I have now found and read the article in the Guardian, such that it is, and all Ecclestone said was, 'I prefer strong leaders,' and then expressed the view that he thinks Max Mosley could be a good Prime Minister. It doesn¿t matter whether or not you agree with him they are merely opinions and points of view, so what is wrong with that? He made due acknowledgement in his remarks about Hitler that he wasn¿t passing an opinion on what Hitler did, merely that he was a strong leader, which he was; history reports that. The problem with the article in the Guardian is that it is all paraphrased and reported comment, which never leaves the clearest view of what was said or what was trying to be said. One thing is for sure though; with a paper like the Guardian you can bet your life that if Ecclestone said anything that could remotely be construed as actual support for the regime of Hitler, anti Semitic, or racist it would have been emblazoned in massive headlines on the front of the paper together with hand wringing as only the Guardian can do it.

Lsquared
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 13:55 View all Lsquared's posts

This isn't particularly surprising (except, maybe, the lack of judgement in saying anything remotely defensive of Hitler). Bernie has expressed his contempt for democracy before. His behaviour toward the fans shows exactly what he thinks of the great unwashed. Ironic, though - I bet Max won't be screaming about "disrespect" as he did when Luca called him a dictator. All depends on the source, I suppose.

LesByrneADI
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 13:42 View all LesByrneADI's posts

This guy should be straight jacketed and locked away in a nice rubber room! This is beyond belief!

jezatmh
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 13:31 View all jezatmh's posts

Does Bernie know more about Max's antics? Refering to Hitler etc.Dictators destroy anything that crosses their path.Getting things done by way of dictatorship brutally costs lives,creates resentment and fear among people.FOTA did the right thing and brought these two into line.Formula 1 would be worthless without FOTA and the majority of fans of Formula 1 who supports them like me.

rcparsons
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 13:24 View all rcparsons's posts

Why is it that wealthy and famous people like Bernie think that everything they have to say is profound and brilliant simply because of the size of their bank accounts. Hollywood Stars and F-1 Czars live in their own delusional little world but fortunately for us peasants, they constantly attempt to enlighten.

Max_Headroom
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 13:20 View all Max_Headroom's posts

"@ F1nestkind....It DID get posted! I made only SPECIFIC quotes and expressed NO PERSONAL OPINIONS. 'mic6ard' and 'theoldman' just go back to 'F1nestkind's post @ 10.05 and "racerick" I'm really sorry. I promise you that we're not all like that. I'm sure that most?! of what was posted about M.M. & B.E. was said in good humour, if a little "tongue in cheek" if it had been, or been close to the truth I'm sure that we're all really sorry. If, by pure coincidence it was true, C'est la vie!

davratta
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 13:18 View all davratta's posts

Bernie's favorite philosipher must be George Fitzhugh, a Scot who in the early 1800's tried to justify slavery. Fitzhugh's most famous line was..."Most people are born with a saddle on their back, only a select few are born, booted and spured, ready to ride them." Bernie thinks he was born with silver spurs on his boots.

brazza
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 12:48 View all brazza's posts

its time for this guy and Max to go into the wild blue yonder and get some real managers into the FIA who are not oevr enamoured by thier own preconception.

CooperS
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 12:41 View all CooperS's posts

If EVER there was a reason for FOTA to break away and start their own series, this is it. IF we continue with the shadow of Max and with Bernie driving the F1/FOM ship, we are doomed. BREAKAWAY NOW!

LAMF
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 12:34 View all LAMF's posts

what is it about f1 this year? everyone is constantly putting their feet in their mouths! this is what happens when what goes on off the track becomes more interesting than whats happening on it .. people actually start giving these idots column inches. Bernie is usually very quiet, and just gets on with running the show, Max has always been an idiot but thankfully very rarely got interviewed about anything outside of FIA issues but lo and behold ask them what they really think and BINGO! ready made controversy ..

theoldman
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 12:26 View all theoldman's posts

Well dumb and dumber have finally done it. After Max had his hissey fit about not getting proper respect I was considering after 51 years of attending races not going to any more. Now Bernie the brain has convinced me that is the end of me and F1 attendance and I will only watch on TV if it is a rerun.

mic6ard
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 12:20 View all mic6ard's posts

WOW. Lost for words there. But isn't it kinda weird that he, supposedly, compared Mosley to Hitler? When one is pretty much a dictator and one's claiming not to be one.

tonto
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 12:14 View all tonto's posts

Dear PF1 bet your working overtime going through this lot

stormcat
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 12:14 View all stormcat's posts

There is a the another reason FOTA should have broken away from F1. FOTA has some power now this is where they should fire back at Bernie about this comment.

graphite
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 11:55 View all graphite's posts

I'm assuming he has been horribly misquoted - otherwise those are especially stupid, ignorant and downright offensive comments. How anyone could possibly quote Hitler, Saddam Hussien and the Taliban as admirable examples of control is beyond me. What a pathetic man. If the quote is accurate he's a disgrace and, a moron.

BuggyRider
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 11:42 View all BuggyRider's posts

Bernie hasn't actually said anything new here. He has previously said he likes dictatorship and doesn't like the UK, the situation here or British politics. I don't know if he has any great feelings for Jews either way but I suspect not. He just likes governments which give him the money and build tracks without worrying about what the locals feel about what is going on. I suspect he may not like paying tax too much either. The common people don't really matter and should do as they are told. That has been Bernie for many years now. Unfortunately this doesn't help F1's reputatuon too much and these comments won't go down well with Merc or BMW. Oh well lets hope we can talk about the racing again soon.

BigCatCarpo
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 11:34 View all BigCatCarpo's posts

Oh dear. I mean - no, just "Oh dear".

racingintime
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 11:33 View all racingintime's posts

You look back at some comments on here and you lot have just about called max everything you can think off. Your right, Bernie is way out of line but you lot should look at yourselfs your not much better.

veritas
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 11:10 View all veritas's posts

This is the problem when people who are essentially uncultured and uneducated are allowed to hold powerful positions - I bet Bernie didn't do much at school or read anything apart from comics.

racerrick48
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 10:52 View all racerrick48's posts

Whether or not my message gets printed here at PF1, I can only say that as a Jew and an American I am appalled by Bernie's comments! In essence, what he is saying in effect is that being a Nazi is very efficient, and perhaps that's the way things should be done. I think the millions of people who died at the hands of the Nazis and the OTHER millions who died trying to defeat their reign of terror (mostly British and Americans!)would have a very different point of view. It would seem to me that Bernie and Max think that the whole world was wrong and Hitler, Mussolini and Tojo were right. If that's the case, then it's time for a new head-of-state at FOM just as it was right to depose Max as the head of the FIA...There is no way that one can justify this sort of thinking...although it certainly does explain why Bernie does what he wants, when he wants to, and noone defies him. Chamberlain did the same in 1939 and 1940 and look where that led the whole world just a year later...Bernie needs to go away!

Max_Headroom
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 10:43 View all Max_Headroom's posts

"@ F1nestkind. A brilliant posting. I've followed up a bit but, in case mine exceeds the PF1 directive...WELL SAID! from Max_Headroom

Max_Headroom
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 10:38 View all Max_Headroom's posts

I'd like to add to Mr. Ecclestone's list of leaders who in his words "got things done" his OWN list includes Adolf Hitler, who was DIRECTLY responsibe for WW2 and the slaughter of millions (MILLOINS) of jews. He got things done O.K! Maggie Thatcher (Responsible for the DOSH culture) Saddam Hussein (How many British troops died trying to dispose of him?) I'll add a few more of my own that he may like to use in his next quote, Stalin, Poll Pot, Kim Jong, Wa Gyi (Burma), Mussolini, Robert Mugabe, Idi Amin, Attilla the Hun, the list goes on.and on. and on. ALL, you must confess REALLY POSITIVE leaders. Oh sorry to quote again and "Max Mosley". Tony Blair and Gordon Brown at least tried to be positive Role models, as does Barrack Obama. they may not succeed but the tried. I have NOT stated any personal opinons and I dont think that I've overstepped PF1's guidance, don't forget that this is not the posting of PF1.

f1nestkind
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 10:05 View all f1nestkind's posts

A personal opinion of PF1¿s rules of engagement: 1) no swearing Very good rule ¿ anyone who needs to resort to swearing has already lost the argument. 2) no calling Bernie a 'troll' - it won't be published Very good rule ¿ anyone who needs to resort to personal attacks has again already lost the argument. 3) no bringing up Max's history What? None of it? Aren¿t we allowed to mention anything? His time with March? His power struggle with Balestre? His recent questionable governance of F1? Or do you just mean that aspect of his personal life that has been widely reporting in the National press and is mentioned almost every time he is written about in Fleet Street? Grow up PF1. Everyone already knows. 4) no slanderous comments towards Bernie, Max, etc See the answers to rules one and two. 5) don't say anything that can get PF1 sued We can¿t get you sued as you publish a disclaimer that any opinions expressed are not those of PF1.

stranger
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:59 View all stranger's posts

I agree that taking down Saddam Hussein and the Taliban are both obvious blunders by Western forces, however Bernie surely knows that it was not done to "save" Iraq and Afghanistan. Surely he knows that there is a lot more deep corruption than that. Totally disagree with him with the "gets things done" policy, Margaret Thatcher got things done but at what cost? With that pattern of thinking you could also say George Bush got things done too. I agree with Bernie that Mosley would make a good corrupt leader of Britain though, perfect for the neocons, no doubt.

f1nestkind
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:52 View all f1nestkind's posts

Before commenting on this article I think it would be interesting to see (or preferrably hear) a transcript of this interview to see precisely what questions prompted this remarkable response. I am always more than a little sceptical when an article in the popular press is prefaced with the words "has been quoted as saying". It always sounds a little like a buck passing excercise to me. Don't get me wrong, I am not defending Bernie. His outspoken comments are a source of much amusement but all too often journlists are to a very large extent responsible for placing words into interviewees mouth or even, god forbid, for taking quotations out of context. On numerous occasions I have read of some outrageous "Bernieism" only to later see the actual inteview and realising he was speaking with his tongue very firmly in his cheek. I hope I have kept to the rules here PF1. Or do I (once again) fail to get my comment printed for even the slightest suggestion of shoddy journalism.

summerss
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:35 View all summerss's posts

Maybe Bernie and Max are making excuses for the way they do things. Nothing they say shocks me anymore, we all know that they are so far past their sell by date that they can't remember what it looked like when they passed it.

hybrid
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:19 View all hybrid's posts

I used to respect Bernie and slowly that respect was lessening. After coming out with such statements i have totally lost all respect for him. Time to get rid of that clown!!

fishlocust
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:13 View all fishlocust's posts

Timing has always been one of Bernie's strong points. This leading into ze German GP too, surely his best effort yet! Ja wohl.

payback
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:12 View all payback's posts

Not giving us much to work with PF1Editor! HAHA Once again shows that Bernie is out of touch and should really be taking a step back and maybe do more watching from the sidelines.

americanfan
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:11 View all americanfan's posts

Did I really just read that ? If I said these things out loud thay would have me put away.

GPunsalan
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:10 View all GPunsalan's posts

If opinions can't be expressed you might as well disable comments.

baldoldf1er
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:07 View all baldoldf1er's posts

Nice one Bernie! But you must be careful. Bob Mugabe gets things done as well. You don't really want to go down that route do you. Where would you bury all Max's slain opposition? We want a strong person who gets things done for the racing fraternity's good, not for his own or just to see changes - that's where Maggie, one of our greatest leaders, went wrong.

pete_de_la_mare
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:05 View all pete_de_la_mare's posts

He's finally gone totally mad.

batfuds
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 09:03 View all batfuds's posts

You say Bernie has gone mad, but the man has just managed to bring up, and link by assosciation, Max's favourite subject, Thatcher, Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, he even sneaks in Gordon Brown, surely the most depicable person in that unsavoury group..... and links them all to Mad Max. He may have almost over-goose-stepped the mark, but make no mistake about the blade flashing down on Max. It seems this Caesar is going to die the death of 1000 cuts at Brutus' hands...

corbs
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 08:53 View all corbs's posts

This is perhaps the saddest day (in recent history)in F1 - Bernie has proven once again that he has no sense of reality, self awareness or empathy. For God's sake, putting Hitler and even Hussein up on a pedestal is appalling - perhaps he would have liked to have been one of the poor victims of their cruelty. Sadly, once again he has forgotten that F1 is about racing, not politics... This time he's gone way too far and should apologise!

PF1Editor
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 08:48 View all PF1Editor's posts

Rules of engagement from the PF1 staff: you have your opinions on Bernie's comments and are allowed to express them but there are rules... 1) no swearing 2) no calling Bernie a 'troll' - it won't be published 3) no bringing up Max's history 4) no slanderous comments towards Bernie, Max, etc 5) don't say anything that can get PF1 sued

dr0know0it0all
Posted 04/07/2009 @ 08:46 View all dr0know0it0all's posts

mygod bernies gone mad.