One thinsg that would be different if FOTA set up their own series, is that they would be compelled bof commercial reasons to put races where fans will come and watch. Thy won't be able to go to the Turkeys of the world (no pun intended) and shake them down for 10's of millions of government money. So you'd have racing where people want to watch racing, which seems a novel concept in the current climate. I found the mooted 2010 FOTA race schedule a great deal more interesting than even more races that are purchased just as some sort of national political promotion.

It would seem that for FOTA the FIA is like a drug .. they know they shouldn't have anything to do with it BUT can't kick the habit !!..to stay adicted will result in ruination.....

Hurray!!! Another Break-Away option means another change for Montreal!!! Go FOTA

I think that Bernie wanted to say MAX instead of the other dictator that he mentioned before....

LOL. Look on YouTube, 'Alexis and Krystle ultimate catfight'. Its Max and Bernie. You gotta larf!!!

FOTA has nobody to blame but themselves. FOTA allowed this to happen by capitulating to these two demented dictators, Mosley and Ecclestone. FOTA are a bunch of posturing cowards. All dedicated motor racing fans would have prefered FOTA start their own series, but they did not have the balls to do it. This is the result...

Well, to hell with it, back to FOTA Plan A, a new series, and let us see what happens. This time, though, there can be no turning back. It may be a disaster with all the tv, legal, venue complications but what is there to lose ... the FIA is incorrigible. And oh by the way it it is a good time to disassociate with a leadership that is a profound embarrassment to any and every individual, team, and sponsor who has any association with F1 at the moment. No other respectable activity anywhere would put up with this buffoonery.

More duplicious behaviour from Max and his cronies.......FOTA.....wake up ! It's high time to stop pandering to these thieves and liars......start FOTA-1 series NOW !.....let the FIA see what sort of crowd they'll draw if NONE of the FOTA teams bother to finish the 2009 season ! And, since their is NO Concorde Agreement in place, what's to stop you from doiing just this? DUMP THE FIA AND FOM !

PS andygrandez - you're just as sweary as me you devil.

Thanks andygrandez, and rattymouse, carbinAU, NickUSA and all the others that seem to agree with us. Hippyneil raises an interesting point about media coverage. For sure the biggest rolls of toilet paper ever produced are being delivered to CVC HQ as we speak. Bernie is an employee of CVC but they hold the commercial rights to F1. 'F1' and the 'World Drivers Championship' are 'owned' by the FIA. So it appears that CVC are locked into whatever the FIA drums up as the 'F1 World Championship' which if the split happens, is likely to be the most widely televised, most international and most promoted sub GP2 series ever seen. On the back of that CVC need to generate sufficient cash to repay the loans taken out to buy the rights originally. Broadcast fees to CVC are probably locked in for 3 to 5 years, but that's a fixed sum - unlikely to be renewed unless the FIA series is really special. The real money is made generating new circuits, but this drive to ever more exotic backwaters leaves the teams and sponsors cold as they lose customer focus. So it looks like the existing broadcasters have to follow CVC and the FIA for the next few years. But its likely that the FIA series won't generate enough revenue for CVC, especially if the fans, sponsors and 'new' circuits start to draw back. Leaving them very exposed. BUT for the constructors, if they do go it alone there are many alternative (admittedly pay) channels that can carry their races. Sky, Star and a US networked channel would just about cover the world. Without the need to service CVC debt the first contracts could be priced very reasonably. It looks to me that if the constructors get a good business manager and they staff and fund him properly, they really would hold all the aces here. It could be a catastrophe for CVC, Bernie and the FIA. Unles the '8' poop out & 'fold'.

Let all the f1 fans vote to get rid of all the FIA,start with the president and so on. Please Planet pu the vote to the fans,and lets see what happens.

let's get rid of Ferrari and get on with proper motor racing let's have a new FIA president, NOT an ex Ferrari member, maybe Mr. Branson? well he couldn't do any worse, or maybe Mr. Hill? Come on peeps!! We want Motor Racing ear, I got an Idea?? Let's have a break-away!! Let's open up all the old circuits!! AND have some new ones!! Then It could be run just for us!! A Motor Race every weekend, 52 weeks of the year. Yea??? Not silly if you think about it

FOTA GRAND PRIX 2010 is NOW!!! Fota, get the hell out of this junk yard call formula1 & start your own series NOW. Now Max, FIA & formula1 stinks now!

What do FOTA have to discuss? They have no vote, remember Max? After all it was you who pointed that out! What would you have them do? Sit as spectators while Force India, Manor, Compos and USF1 decide the future of F1? Yeah and Williams too, I didn't mention Williams with the above four, because despite its results in recent years, at least they have F1 racing pedigree, which is a lot more than can be said of the abouve four. Anyways, it seems the teams (the ones allowed to vote) have agreed to the FOTA proposal, so it looks like disaster could be averted...

The issue is dragging on and on.... These old men just dont give up, do they?

Max and Bernie have run their course....10 years ago. They are two ridiculous old men who are draggin F1 to the grave with them. FOTA should have stuck to their guns and left the FIA behind.

FOTA should give up on Max. He clearly can't be trusted, and anything he promises he'll take back whenever it suits him. They should begin setting up their alternate series now, and totally ignore Max and Bernie, no matter what he says, does, or promises. The only good Max is a powerless Max.

Max Mosley act's just like a dodgy 2nd hand car dealer, no wonder everyone in the pitlane want's to see the back of him, he seems to think F1 belongs to him, once again he proves HE is the problem.. after 34yrs watching F1, i'm fast losing interest, he just cannot be trusted.

My good rattymouse, FOTA has no reason to destroy FIA, as the later seems to be perfectly capable to destroy itself by itself. The only remaining question is, will Maxsey succeed -after too much effort already- to kill F1 together with FIA?

Lets put it this way..... Im not watching any motorsport which has any association with Max Moseley next year. If FOTA is foolish enough to still be in Moseley's grip at that point, Im watching something else.

Well said GJCC, my thoughts exactly (except more eloquent and less sweary!). If Max loved this sport as much as we do and as much as power and money then he wouldnt keep throwing up these unecessary hurdles. MAX, GIVE IT UP AND SOD OFF!

FOTA do not want a breakaway series, they want Formula One the way it should be, they want the sport they joined as do we the viewers and fans. A FOTA series will ONLY succeed if it gets prime time TV coverage, in the same way F1 currently does, and that is unlikely as TV execs generally don't have a clue or care - I cite MotoGP as an example, a great racing series with nominal coverage on mainstream TV (in the UK anyway). Formula One is the brand that sells. A FOTA series will have no history, no branding and no prime-time TV - and as the sponsorship money vanishes, no participants. The berakaway series is a pipe-dream and everyone knows it.

It is obvious that max want to be dictator,so i think the best way to solve this problem is for fota to create their own F1 competition and they will get support from every body, as i said in my previous comment Max and Ecclestone will destroy the F1 competition.

We should all support the FOTA in this matter, as it is the teams who race. The FIA has apparently ignored the agreement made in Paris by the WMSC, FOTA and FIA. If I were the head of the FOTA, I would never step back into a room with the FIA, but go off to start up a new series. At this juncture, that may be the only route available to them. The intransigence of the FIA through their representatives and their ability for sheer arrogance, willing to cut off their nose to spite their face, is just utterly amazing. The biggest part of the FIA is F1, so the FIA needs these teams to survive. Fans will flock to a new series because they follow these teams and drivers. Max and Bernie have both ignored the fans for too long now and when they have few people attend their races once a breakaway series begins, they will lose their TV rights, the venues where the fans exist and will be stuck with races in places like China, Singapore, Indonesia, Bahrain, Turkey and any other venue new to the calendar. The breakaway series will race in places where the fans live and will enjoy success and profit. The fans will flock to the races, TV rights will be readily available, the fans will be able to meet the teams and the highest form of motor racing will continue on and grow... without Max and Bernie and their subsequent organizations. The breakaway series could cut costs by combining these two bodies into one and enjoy more of the money from the contracts with TV and tracks. Team budgets would be reasonable and appropriate to the level of racing undertaken. Sponsors, teams, drivers and fans will all be pleased at the competition, performance and fairness of each race. This can become reality if the FOTA really want it to occur. We'll see how the FIA reacts and if Max resigns, effective immediately. If this occurs, expect Bernie to be not far behind when more public pressure occurs.

FOTA may well announce the break away is going ahead after Mosely's new attempt at destroying the sport for fans around the world. If FOTA do decide to contine with a new series, I'd be pretty certain they will not pursue any reconciliation. Please FOTA, you have the majority of fans behind you ... DO IT!

There could be big money involved. No wonder Mad M is trying to hang on and to regain complete control over the teams. I say get rid of him immediately or establish a better racing league outside of the current FIA which is under one bad dictator.

A FOTA split would NOT be like the CART/Indy split. Virtually all the teams that matter would be on one side and the FIA would be on the other. WHO watches F1 because of the FIA? No one, that's who. If the FOTA teams got decent tracks to race on (which they will), then the FIA has NOTHING to offer fans that FOTA cant. It is time for FOTA to completely and utterly destroy the FIA. These recent events prove that the FIA is out to destroy the FOTA teams and so the time to act is now! If FOTA fails to act now, then they have one but themselves to blame. I fully support the FOTA teams and hope that they will utterly, and completely destroy the FIA.

As everybody expects Mosley to step down coming autumn, he may provide a real service to both the sport and the business by stepping down effective immediately. People like Donelly and Whitting should follow suit. Period.

I forgot to add, Luca, Flav, Mario, Ross, Christian, John, Martin, Franz et al - You've had your 100 days. If I don't see a result by this Saturday, you're sacked. (PS - No Bonus either).

I see "FOTA INTERNATIONAL GP 2010". Max is a failed old witch just hungry for attention, like we don't know who he is.

FOTA had better start thinking about whether they are going to 'squat and drop' or just get off the pot, bow down and take it. As of Wednesday they're starting to look outflanked by Max Almighty. If they don't act decisively - one way or the other - by Friday they're stuffed - and they'll end up carrying the blame for all of the recent problems. My advice, DO A BREAKAWAY SERIES NOW, SERVE NOTICE AND THEN CUT TIES AND COMMS TO THE FIA. For a bunch of 'high flying corporate managers' working on the international stage you're all coming across as a bunch of indecisive, confused wuss'es, who aren't quite sure which way to go next. Forget the CART/INDY debacle - I'm sure that's frightening a number of you younger team managers (the 'what if I'm not good enough' syndrome), think about the CART/USAC split 25 years earlier. That worked and it heralded 20 years of stability, great venues, fantastic competition and the biggest grids seen in 'big-balls' racing. JUST B----Y GET ON WITH IT! Lets see some great new (and some great old) venues, packed with fans enjoying a weeks worth of pre-race promo and creative build-up. THE FUTURE IS IN THE TEAMS HANDS - NOT 2 OLD BLOKES WHO'VE PREVIOUSLY DONE A GOOD (BERNIE) AND FAIR (MAX)JOB, BUT WHO ARE NOW HAMSTRUNG BY FINANCIAL OBLIGATION AND AN OVER-RIDING EGO AND CONCERN FOR THEIR PLACE IN HISTORY RESPECTIVELY. BE PROFESSIONAL FOTA - AND GET ON WITH IT.

Not so much a farce as a FIAsco.

Toys, Pram, yawwwwwwwwwn. Whens the next Moto GP?

I am worried that FIA are going to agree new regulations with FOTA, then cause a furore again, then agree again, then make it all go wrong again and so on until FOTA have no time left to put together a new series. Creating a breakaway series now would be harder than starting 2 weeks ago and the FIA know that time is at a premium for FOTA.

F1 is starting to sound like the America's cup. Mosley just can't help himself , he has to stick a needle in somewhere.I'm sure he spends most of his time thinking up ways of getting one up on the FOTA teams. Its a shame FOTA could not get there act together and ditch the Bernie and Max soap opera that F1 has become. Now it seems the childish slapstick will drag on and on and on....

Dump this lot of posturing prima donnas and get into MotoGP. Close racing. Hot rivalry between teams and the riders ¿ even within the same team. Sportsmanship and respect between rivals. Do or die last corner moves. Other plus points include: no Max or Bernie; Oh and Susie Perry is a little easier on the eye than Jake Humphrey; No Legard in the commentary box boring for England. Regards Herr Stigenfhurer

Isn't this exactly why FOTA want someone other than Moseley in place. He continually undermines and backtracks on agreements: he seems to relish confrontation and division. If I were a business operator (especially CVC) I would wonder at the amateur way in which this sport is being run and the damage it is doing to the brand. A breakaway series seemed like a good idea before; it seems even better now - so perhaps it needs to be done.

The 'sport' is getting pretty boring now anyway. To be honest when did we last see a proper fight for position on the circuit like the old days? Most races are a procession back to Kimi's Ice Creams and the after race parties. FOTA should get some balls and set their own series up and make it exciting!

It's probably an attempt to divert attention away from Bernies comments ;)

Are you kidding me?

"The distraction of all these politics is now so great that I don't feel FI is worthy of being called a sport any more. I for one have had enough now and I am instead looking forward to the football season. This year I will put my GP ticket money towards a football season ticket instead. We should all vote with our feet"

I've been an F1 fan for as long as i can remember, but this is seriously starting to put me off. FOTA claim they have the fan's best interest at heart, but all they're doing by continually throwing their dummy out of the pram, is putting the whole sport, as we know it, at risk of extinction. I realise the FIA are as much to blame, but FOTA need to keep their handbags under the table and keep talking.

I'm not giving up F1 I've watched for too many decades now. However this just cannot go on for much longer. One has to ask where this puts the chief steward. Respect was probably already fairly low but is there any respect at all within the FOTA teams now. If FOTA are going out on there own time is getting short as finding the tracks and signing the deals will take a lot of time and work. Perhaps we all need to know by the end of August at the latest?

Good old PF1 - slanting the truth as usual. You make it sound like they had any choice but to leave a meeting that they were no longer allowed to contribute to thanks to Mosley going back on his word again. Whay not report it as it is instead of sensationalising it incorrectly

The puppeteer strikes again...

This is turning out ot be boring now. We need a breakaway series. Thanks to all these rule changes this year is already turning out to be boring. Max and bernie need to go. We need new blood in F1 or a new series which has some real racing..

What a load of Hogwash! SPONSOR's, FOTA, FAN's and everyone with any little bit of interest left in F1 please have your say and write to the WMSC requesting the suspension of these FIA instigators who reak havoc with their own regulations, it seems that now Charlie boy is also confused as to what was previously agreed! WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS, I am now going to boycott watching this rubbish called F1!!!! PS: I hope the williams, Force India & the new comers enjoy themselves, hopefully all spectators, FOTA and the current Sponsor's will take a break from this rubbish and do their own thing!!! Goodbye & Goodluck!

Wellll, it's easy to see a few moron are still on the parooll

.......Boring.

" In their own statement, the FIA put it more bluntly as they said: "Following the decision of the World Council on 24 June to revert to the pre-29 April version of the 2010 F1 Sporting and Technical Regulations, the FIA today met the (teams which have entered the 2010 championship) to seek their agreement to these changes." - What was this about? Is the FiA saying they dont even understand simple English? If the fota members have not enetered the championship, who invited them? This is ridiculous. I am fed up with this & will find something better to do on sunday cos the FIA & Max are a bunch of nitwits.

@untac93 FOTA havent a chance to launch a new series just as they havent a change to launch the mext moon landing.Time for starters.

Hello ! None of you seem to be interested in the most important aspect of any sport or Business - The people whom you are suppose to entertain, who in return brings in the revenue to you.. Customer (in this case the F1 Fan / spectator) is the key - not Max or Ferrari.. FIA better look at giving what the Fans want than work to their own agenda !

Ok, this is seriously getting boring now!

No more talk..... walk and start your own series FOTA and sue the A SS off of Max

Oh dear. This is ridiculous. Maybe we racing fans should start looking elsewhere. There could be better things to do on Sundays.

These old men just won't let the you guys get on with the racing. These old pit ponoes should be sent out to graze in their final years. How on earth can great companies such as Toyota, Mercedes, BMW and Fiat stand back and accept this wrangling, time and time again. Well I was planning on travelling the 300 kilometeres on Sunday to watch the GP but you know... I don't think I'll bother!!! Do you care FIA/Bernie, nbo because only the Nurnberg official and the drivers loose out not you fascists!

Is this a last atempt from Mr Mosley to put his stamp on things for 2010.

Mosley is now totally off the wall - somebody should stop him - or is it too late already - I will stop watching F1 until such time that reason has returned

Dear FOTA: This situation isn't going to change. The FIA will always screw around with the sport, at least as long as Max and Bernie are around. The teams know better what goes into racing. Please, please, for your own sake and the sake of the fans, form the breakaway series. Sever ties with the FIA and don't look back.

Someone smart and know enough about F1, please tell us who is screwing who this time. I suddenly make sense of Bernie's comment's about AH. I think he was smartly telling peoples that his old friend may behave like AH, go for total destruction over surrender.

Boss Mosely has effectively terminated the "Main 8" from F1. IF by some quirk a court decides they must run with the 2010 rules he has dictated, the FOTA loyalists would be wise to appear with minimal vehicles, go through the motions and do a lap before retiring. (Remeber the tire protest at Indy?) In any event, they could spend 2010 developing cars for a new series in 2011, and setting up a racing schedule. How about calling the new group/series Primo or Pinnacle Racing? Go for it FOTA (PRTA?). Get out of Bernie, Max, and Whitings grasp.

FOTA, tell the FIA to stuff it.....

If it's already late for a new series to start in March 2009, I wouldn't mind waiting until April or even May, provided we stop with this nonsense now.

FIA is just trying to stall long enough to prevent a break-away series from having time to organize for '10.

Surprise, surprise, Max was not involved in this one. And so the war continues...

When will FIA realize you can't just call it F-1, it must BE F-1. Send me a FOTA schedule for my TIVO!

There must be a God... I was actually somewhat dissapointed when the break-a-way series didn't eventuate. Now there is hope once again...

Set up the breakaway series at any cost. Forget these jackasses

Kirk: "Scotty, what's left?" Scot: "Just the battery Sir." Kirk: [shouting] "Can you give me phaser power?" Scot: "A few shots Sir." Spock: "Not enough against their shields." [violin plays note of peril] AndyC: F1 is about as real as Star Trek these days; FOTA have fumbled the ball, and are a laughingstock. They have about 24 hours of relevancy left.

The FIA is the text book business school case study of poor management. You simply can not get more incompetence packed into one silly organization that this. You just can't. What is wrong with these people?

Sigh - just get to the racing please!! Things were looking so positive. Anyway - good luck to the Redbulls for the German GP.

With Prodrive and Lola added to the current FOTA eight teams, there is a very respectable grid line up for next season. This is still on the cards if Mosely will persist in agitating all concerned.

Break away FOTA. Start by boycotting this weeks race, put enough pressure on the FIA and FOM and they will have to fold. This is not unprecedented, I remember spending many thousands of Dollars getting to Indianapolis only to see 6 cars race. I was disgusted and so will the European fans be, But it will send a dire message. What can they do? suspend you or fine you? Then just tell the FIA and FOM to stick it where the sun doesn't shine and start the new series, we the fans are fed up with this joke

My god it's like two old farts living next to each other.

How much better a place would the world be (not just F1 ... but the whole wide world) without Moseley ? ... think about it for about 10 seconds ... OK ... got it ? ... leg it Max ... on yer bike ... sling yer hook ... nobody is gonna miss you ... grrrrrr

thank god for this, god bless FOTA, they have saved F1 this year, Without them, all we would have this year is the lame and boring Button vs Rubens show, instead we gave have FOTA vs Max show with FOTA up by 2 and Max still on 0.

Max and his cronies must be the most expensive circus on the planet. :) bring on the break away :)

If we want an end to this, either the FIA are dissolved or FOTA leave to form a breakaway series. We can't have a bunch of spoiled brats walking out everytime there is a disagreement.

Can anybody tell me, are there any Grand Prix motor races this year? I keep watching the news and never see much mention of a race taking place.

Now that the FIA think they have all the FOTA teams back in their stable they are trying to keep control of the regs. FOTA should call their bluff and say these are the voting rights we require, give the FIA a definitive date to agree by, then the FIA either agree by that date and happy days, or walk away and start their own series. I for one will be watching whichever series has Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull, Renault and the like. If Bernie and Max can't see that this is what the fans want then stiff sh*t for them!!!!

FOTA go on with the new series... As a fan of Ferrari, Ross Brawn, McLaren, Fernando Alonzo, Kimi Raikonen I will follow... Of course we will follow where the pinnacle of motorsports is... GOGOGOGO!!! All this politics is destroying the sports... Leave the sport MAX and BERNIE!!!... LEAVE US AND F1 ALONE!!! WAAAAAA!

After attending a brilliant MOTOGP Laguna Seca event last weekend, I scanned PF1 only to find ridiculous articles on "Bernie loves Hitler", and "F1 in chaos, again". The contrast couldn't be more stark. F1 is fast becoming a joke, and its become embarrassing to call myself a fan. I've been obsessed with this sport for many years; I'd just hate to think what new fans are thinking trying to follow all of the off track distractions that are so irrelevant to other forms of racing, and are best kept behind closed doors.

I KNEW that Max Mosley would launch an all out assault on the FOTA teams. He will not rest until all of them, including Ferrari, have been utterly destroyed. That is how Max plays. The FOTA teams have really underestimated him and now will see their teams reduced to scrap heaps. Too bad as they almost had their breakaway series.

Predictable.As soon as Mosley started his rant about the so called agreement and that he was being pressured to run again, FOTA should have started to work quietly on their own series.Theb when something like this happened, they could have given Max the middle finger and said their goodbyes.

For gods sake FOTA get your own series going walk away and leave Max and Bernie to pick up the pieces, it's obvious the FIA are in a mood to muck about and nothing will be resolved because they think they have the upper hand...

FOTA needs to break away. the FIA will just lose the billions in revenue. i cant see why the FIA would dare fight against FOTA. o wait i know why, MAX "EGO" MOSLEY is the FIA

Once more, proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the lunatics are running the asylum! Everything is agreed to, IN WRITING and OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED, then it isn't. FOTA has no choice now but to walk out this weekend and form FOTA GP immediately. There is no point in negotiating with lunatics, they live in their own world, and it ISN'T Planet Earth. Please FOTA, stop wasting time and just start FOTA GP already!!!

So the FIA have finally proven that their word is useless. Surely you can't publicly agree to a set of conditions and then equally publicly go back on them and claim they never happened. What a farce...

A note to the FOTA: Start your own series, it doesn't need to be called Formula 1. Treat the fans with some respect and they will come. Just do it. Enough of this BS. Be gone Max and Bernie.

Let FOTA start their breakaway series than stay with stupid FIA which doesn't care about our opinion.

Heavens above... Max backtracks on his agreement to quite at the end of his term, Bernie praises Hitler and now this. Like Fota I didn't even expect this one coming in from left field... my jaw is stunned...

For adults, these guys sure know how to act like spoiled little school girls! They are going to bitch themselves right out of business. Their behavior is pathetic and I bet the sponsors love it as well. I'm fed up. NASCAR and MotoGP rule!

Does the FIA even know what its doing these days? Its just hilarious some of the trouble caused by the supposed governing body. Sounds like Max is trying to backtrack on some of the points he lost out on

I think Willams and Force India should get off the fence and choose who´s side they are on.

All you people that thought F1 was about cars racing each other are wrong. Actually it's all about power politics. Sad but true. Enough!

this is just bizarre! After thinking earlier that Max had pulled a fast one, I now think that FOTA have Max over a barrel! Everything released by the FIA suggested all the teams were "entered" so if the FIA are now claiming they're not, FOTA are free to walk away - and I'd guess that also means Ferrari! Even if the FIA claim they have FOTA teams under some sort of contract, all they need to do is claim misrepresentation! What a joke!

Come on guys, give your heads a shake, FIA cannot be trusted. Grow a backbone and make a move. Everyone is sick of this "it's my sand box and you can't play" routine. Its time to stop with the threats of a breakaway, and just do it.

Clearly uncle Max was speaking with a forked tongue two weeks ago - but what is new? - What gets me is that the WMSC allow this to go on - and on - and on... what is really at stake here is the credibility of the WMSC. If they don't act decisively NOW, and regain control over the FIA and its president, we can kiss F! in it's present form goodbye. No manufacturer or sponsor or serious team for that matter wiil take these goons on face value again. This is a shame!

I knew this would happen! As the FIA gave into the pressure of FOTA a few weeks ago and dropped the budget cap now FOTA have just interpreted it as a sign of weakness and demanded more. It is true the FIA are trying to engineer support from new independent teams, free from the manufacturer control of FOTA to weaken their growing power and in doing this are perusing a ruthless 'ends justify the means' agenda. However the manufacturer teams and FOTA want to stop the new teams from entering F1 by delaying the political process in the 2010 regulations so they can keep their share of the F1 prize and television money and potentially have three car teams between them. They may talk of an agenda in touch with the fans of F1 but in reality this is pure PR to hide FOTA's real agenda, which is to control F1 on a financial and political front. It's like cigarette company having too much lobbying power on a government health agenda policy!

Has anyone thought to ask us, the fans (and people who basically pay their wages), what we think???

I am tired of this garbage at first I though mosley was to blame know I see it's fota fault who do they thing they are they just want to have there own rules the FIA is the governing body period

The tedium rages on. Overpaid, power hungry morons throw their million pound toys out of their million pound, state-of-the-art prams. Formula One sinking to new depths of boredom and predictability, a situation made far worse as the Hungarian Grand Prix is coming up. The most boring race in F1 history at a time when F1 needs some brilliance.

Like I said, you REALLY couln't make this up. All we need is Max's pants to fall down on camera and we'll have a real farce. Carry on F1. LOL

It is a CIRCUS with Max being the Clown HA HA HA I have not laughed for so long Start the new series now be fore it is too late

FOTA are being made to pay for LDM's mouthing off after Monaco. What goes around comes around. The longer this goes on the less time FOTA has to organize themselves for a separate series, and the FIA knows that they can push them around more and more as a consequence. They would also have to broker a new deal with Bernie, and the less time they have to do that the less of the pot FOTA will get. At what point do FOTA bow down and accept that they have lost the game big time. IOW FOTA has screwed itself because LDM couldn't keep is mouth shut for a longer than a New York minute.

Yes. Max is only playing with you FOTA. You either bend down for Max or make the breakaway series. You can't trust Max or Bernie. If you want things to be done right, do it yourself...simple.

well I think NASCAR should take over f1 as its second premier series. Track fees or promotional fees should be based on audience potential and not TV audience. I think the current childish behavior of these supposed sports Lovers is a destruction of the sport. The sportive alternative to the management should be a drivers association not some fat cats with briefcases. This years racing is some of the best we have seen and it is the drivers that are making it so. NASCAR and its drivers recognize the fan as the single most important person in the sport they should be the model for the sport

Am I dreaming?...

Great! Now get a binding contract BEFORE agreeing to participate in 2010. And make sure Max is out as part of that contract! Hopefully, there will be no agreement and we will get the breakaway series.

Hopefully the FOTA now realize that they cannot trust the FIA and will move forward with their plans for the new series! FOTA, u say that u will listen to the fans, listen to us now: LEAVE F1!

Max remarks that F1 needs a new blood is totally out of contest it's FIA who need a new blood but I guess he is too old to face the reality and realize that soon it will be the end of F1

Great were back were we started. I think from know on, many fans would just watch F1 races for the rest of 2009 & just wait for what would happen in 2010. This farce has drag long enough to be considered as newsworthy.

I agree with alexisn1. FOTA, please form a new series. It is a WIN for your members, a WIN for the circuit owners and most importantly a huge WIN for F1 fans. Please actively listen to them.

FOTA , G O A W A Y ! ! ! Max was right!

I bet there is no race this weekend. FIA says there is no contract according to other media. Ross Brawn le3ft Germany as Button was arriving returning to UK for serious meeting. I think if this does happen I won't be surprised after Bernies comments over the weekend. They have no choice

Methinks that we may have to add Charlie Whiting to the "time to retire" list...The FIA just destroyed anything that has been achieved in the past few weeks, and there looked to be good prgress...I'm sure Max and Bernie had their fingers in this pie as well!!! Don't these guys understand how bad they're making our sport look to the whole world???

If Hollywood wrote this, the script would be dismissed as a farse and be seen as something that could not really happen, as surely a global mega sport like F1 would be managed by better men than this, men that would not praise dictators, or act like them! How in hell can our beloved sport hold it's head up high! MotoGP is more exciting and has none of the politics, just people going bloody racing! Max and Bernie - LEAVE F1 (alone).

Is this all just spin, keeping the sport in the news. I understand it does nothing but damage the image of F1, I doubt somehow this will end soon. But any other series has no time in which to establish for next year, it may be that the FIA have led them along to give breathing space and to stop a rival series springing up.

well perhaps the breakaway series with all the good bits of f1 an none of mosley will still get the go ahead afterall!?!

FOTA should walk away now and sort out their own series. It will be impossible now to work with the FIA as they have proved time after time they cannot be trusted. Leave the FIA to have their own sub standard series with organizations that don't mind being walked over.

I knew it..well let's hope FOTA just gets on with the new series, and not argue with the FIA anymore.. We know the FIA are snakes. If fota say they are going to listen more to the fans, well here is what we want.."a new series"...

Soldier, soldier won't you marry me... And we all know how that song finished. Time for FOTA to start thier own series.

I am really starting to think that the FIA has clown puppets with Mosley as the clown puppet master. How can the FIA not honour their agreements with FOTA? Yes, this is turning into a comedy.

This is the best reaction. WMSC has been overruled by Charlie and the FIA! Amazing. Charlie is the new Don in town!

I would suggest that the path forward for us Fans is that we obtain the email addresses for Max and Bernie and inundate then with messages saying we will boycott F1 in 2010 unless they get their act together and get this thing settled immediately. I for one will support FOTA should they now proceed, my recommendation, with the previously planned break-away series.

Ding ding ding... I hope it's the final round and FOTA gets a knockout! Time to move on FOTA.

(THussey... "Here we go again!") You beat me to it!!!!!!!!!! (alexisn1..."This is a farse! FOTA go on with the new series before its too late!") FARSE, in capitals I believe? (tonto... "HA HA HA HA i larfed and larfed . This is better than any comedy on TV.") What more can be said?????????? It looks like everyones SPEACHLESS !

This is only the beginning of the 'game' if FOTA even THINK that they will be treated as anything other than chatel serfs while under the auspices of the FIA/FOM. Gentlemen: you have been given a rare priviledge- you have ONCE AGAIN, the opportunity to save this sport from the lawyers and junk bond con artists......go your own way once and for all..........the hell with Max, Bernie and all of their ilk. Second chances aren't handed out too often....don't blow this one ! Max will play this game until it's too late for you to do anything BUT fall under his thumb ...WAKE-UP guys !

the Ashes started today. if the farce that is called F1 continues as this season as, then i think i'll take up cricket!

Mad MAX and Crazy Ecclestone are wantedly delaying FOTA's breakaway with false promises to ensure the breakaway program is delayed to ensure that it would not be possible for next year... Smart Guys ..... but they just ruined the sport with their cunning and misdirected strategies... Why dont these two retire for good and let young or atleast middle aged people take over the sport ?

Everyone and everything that Max touches rots immediately to the point of total maddness. FOTA should walk away and form their own series and no come back or get an agreement signed in blood from the FIA/WMSC and sealed by the International Court of Law that Max, Alan, Charlie and all those in the pockets of Max and Bernie are relieved of their positions with immediate effect.

Also, read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FISA-FOCA_war and change names for today's culprits and you get almost the same story 25 years on!!

Just imagine how much more of a hero the 2009 F1 champion would have if seen years from now. But instead politics are YET AGAIN...

How these supposedly grown men are allowed to hold such influential positions is beyond me. I refer, obviously, to Mosley and Ecclestone, who seem to run their 'businesses' like spoilt medieval landlords. This is not the way to run a 21st century sport.

ENOUGH!!!! I follow F1 to watch the best cars, teams and drivers compete. Can we get back to what it's all about now and stop this pathetic bickering.

you know i was getting a bit bored without the political war at the forefront...be careful what u wish for i guess lol

I live in the US and have been a true F1 fan for over 20 years. We've already lost both the US & the Canadian Grand Prixs and now the politics of F1 are all we hear about. It's a shame when racing is more about egos then the product put on for the people who pay to watch it. When are people going to realize that Bernie and Max need to go. Hopefully CVC will step in and put an end to this madness so everyone can focus on racing. Speaking for myself I am to the point I am sick and tired of the BS and just wish it would stop.

Will this foolishness ever end? It looks like Max just can't give it up.

This is a farse! FOTA go on with the new series before its too late!

Round 2.. ding ding ding

HA HA HA HA i larfed and larfed . This is better than any comedy on TV.

Here we go again!