Franz Tost maintains that Toro Rosso's goal for this season is not to beat Red Bull, rather it is to finish P5 no matter who they are ahead of.
Two races into this year's campaign and Toro Rosso are up into that fifth position on 12 points, that one ahead of senior team Red Bull Racing.
The Faenza-based team edged ahead last time out in Malaysia when rookie drivers Max Verstappen and Carlos Sainz finished seventh and eighth to Red Bull's ninth and then.
However, Tost says beating the Bulls is not the target.
"Our target is not to finish ahead of Red Bull," he told Autosport.
"Our target is to finish at the end of the season in fifth place in the constructors'.
"Whoever is behind us, I don't care.
"If you don't finish in the points then we cannot achieve our targets."